In a crowd of people -- friends, boyfriends, etc.
Nobody KNOWS the real me, but I know tons of people.
But still, nobody to go to the grocery store with, to go shopping with, to just kick it with.
I always feel I have to be acting with most people -- so they don't get to see the real me but at least they like me. But that person I become never has a bad day, never has something bad happen, etc. Sunny Delight, I like to call her. I wish somehow I could buy a friend.
Nobody KNOWS the real me, but I know tons of people.
But still, nobody to go to the grocery store with, to go shopping with, to just kick it with.
I always feel I have to be acting with most people -- so they don't get to see the real me but at least they like me. But that person I become never has a bad day, never has something bad happen, etc. Sunny Delight, I like to call her. I wish somehow I could buy a friend.
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Re: So sick of being alone
Mon, July 10, 2006 - 2:08 PMi would love to be your friend and i dont cost a thing i know where your coming from ....you can be you with me i will not judge you...
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Re: So sick of being alone
Mon, July 10, 2006 - 11:46 PMI feel so sad when I see others not appreciating the comfort they have just having their special someone so close.
On Sunday I directly asked her to move, unfortunately I have no "or else", except to give up, say goodbye, but I *don't* want that, that would be worse and self inflicted torture. At least now I have some hope... one day... I just hope I don't get old before she manages to choose to be with me. And we've wasted our lives away, me waiting, her in a bad financial situation, saying she will move... one day... but not right now, as there's always something happening stopping her, an obligation of one form or another.
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Re: So sick of being alone
Wed, July 12, 2006 - 6:06 PMsorry to hear that brytee maybe its time to move on to something better and stable and someone who knows what she wants and someone that wants to be with you just a suggetion hate to see you get hurt -
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Re: So sick of being alone
Wed, July 19, 2006 - 3:55 PMWell, just because you have someone doesn't necessarily mean happiness or wholeness. My husband is in his own little world and me and the kids are just "here." Is that sad or what?! It makes me so angry! I'm married BUT I am very lonely. Sometimes I feel like I'm going to go crazy thinking about it so much. It's hard not too! We live in the same house of course, we're married, and I shouldn't be lonely! Shouldn't we be best friends to say the least?! I try to be close to him but he just acts uninterrested. Of-course except when he wants to get laid!!! Sorry, but I'm so pissed and tired of it already!!! And we haven't even been married that long!!!!!!!! -
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Re: So sick of being alone
Sat, October 13, 2007 - 10:01 PMHey there! I just wanted to say I'm sorry this has happened to you! Have you tried to confront your husband about your concern? I realize this may not make the situation any better, just a thought. I hope things work out! *hugs*
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Re: So sick of being alone
Wed, July 26, 2006 - 5:42 PMSorry Amber, others say I should "move on" too, but when I love someone, I LOVE them. I don't want anyone else.
I'm already hurt, but one day she'll really know how painful it is for me, and if she loves me as she says she does, then she'll not WANT me to feel bad!
Yes I'm optimistic.
I do fear that like Cecilia's husband, mine may still live like a single person after we're finally together, doing things she wants to, for herself, ignoring me, or worse... actively ensuring to keep me out of "her" life and "her" goals. She's already said things like this, such as when we go on a vacation this year, she wants to spend most of the time doing stuff by herself, although I don't think she'll be totally alone, but will be with others to interact with at various events or projects, but just not with me. Ouch!
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Re: So sick of being alone
Wed, July 26, 2006 - 11:12 PMbrytee i feel so sad for you ... you deserve so much better i really for your sake she comes around
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Should I stay or should I go?
Wed, October 18, 2006 - 12:43 AMSince I'm no longer at my job, I've said I intend to move, but she says she's not sure I should, as she wants to make sure our relationship is ok.
So I cannot get a job here or there, since I might move, or I might not. If I do I need to get a job there I need to be there, if I stay I'll get a job here, but she only said she *might* move.
It's EVEN more painful since I'm totally supporting her now, and paying bills and rent in two places is no good, and all while not getting daily comforts, like hand holding, watching TV, cooking, eating, kissing, cuddling, and even doing "boring" things like shopping together :-( -
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?
Thu, November 16, 2006 - 7:23 PMDude, Either she wants to be with you or she doesn't. This in between, I don't know BS is ridiculous. From the outside looking in, it looks like she is using you and taking advantage of you. Give her an ultimatum. Tell her you are not going to keep maintaining two households while she dithers about what she wants. There is no way to ever be sure that a relationship is going to work out. You just have to take the plunge and try! Move in with her and try. If it doesn't work out, then you can move back! Life is too damn short to waste time not living it! -
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?
Fri, November 24, 2006 - 10:25 AMI agree. This "in between" state is ridiculous. We're doing a lot of couple stuff, except actually having the same mailing address, so I have no idea if I should really move or not, so (as I said before) where do I get a job, and my savings are running out fast.
Now she says she'd like a couple of months to give her "clarity" about us being together, I'm not sure what that means, we've known each other over 3 years, she must know if I'm good enough (or not). I bet that means she'd still interact with all her other friends, just not me.
A big problem with this suggested time apart is I have to be effectively "on hold", not being able to get a permanent job there, as I might move soon, and living on savings is just throwing money away! Which we could put to FAR better use than me paying rent and bills, while waiting.
As well as if we were apart, I feel she'd not be able to do half the stuff she does now, she'd end up working all hours of the day, and still possibly get evicted (as I've saved her from a few times), so then *I* would have nowhere to move to!
I trying to find a solution to having us together, soon, without getting into debt. The solutions I hear are "run away", "cut my losses", "give her an ultimatum", etc, but that's not what I want. I want to know what I can do to seem irresistable? Any ideas? -
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 10:08 AMok, she needs a few months and you need to make a decision because of your work and finances. So find a middle ground. Relationships are about compromise but not at the expense of one party.
So how about this? Can you get a contract job or a temporary job to sustain you a couple more months? And if so, then tell her you can give her the time she says she needs but once X date comes, it's decision time. Then hold her to the bargain.
Also, can you find other living arrangements to give you this time? Like putting all your stuff in storage and housesitting or renting a cheap room in someone's house?
Think creatively. Maybe there is a way to get you out of the job/money mess without necessarily forcing her hand before she's ready.
Just be careful of one thing. Most women I know don't generally like men they can walk all over. At some point, you have to set your boundaries and be the man and take control of the situation. If you let her have all this control over your life and decisions and wallet, she's not going to have any respect for you.
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?
Wed, September 19, 2007 - 5:34 PMI'm sorry, but I just can't hold my tongue on this.
You should not be supporting someone who can't commit to you. A wife (legal or just a serious girlfriend you're living and sharing fate with) is entitled your support because that's the deal. A long distance girlfriend who is on the fence is likely taking advantage. If she "doesn't know" then she shouldn't take your money. I know if I wasn't sure about a guy but needed him for money that would make it awfully hard for me to say "this isn't working out" even though I knew so.
If she needs you to pay her rent, then she doesn't have a job, and she can move to where you have a job. Tell her you can't pay her rent anymore bc you're not working but she is welcome to come and stay with you. You'll buy her a plane ticket. If she needs to "figure things out", that can be done by living together. Likely you would not get along but at least then you would know one way or the other. -
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Re: Should I stay or should I go?
Wed, September 19, 2007 - 6:00 PMI just re-read your post and saw the part where you wanted to know how to seem "irresistable".
Frankly this usually means pulling away and improving yourself. Get a job, get a shrink, and most of all get someone who can be brutally honest about how you appear to other people and offer realistic suggestions for improvement. Embark on a program to make yourself the perfect boyfriend material. Lots of guys end up lonely either because they don't know how to connect or there is something about their personality that pushes people away. No one on the internet can tell you what that is because they can't see you.
I date women, not men, so I face many of the same problems you guys do. I've been single several times. There have been times when it seemed no one wanted to even hang out with me and times when I attracted a mate seemingly without even trying. The difference was always what sort of headspace I was in. When I had been working on myself, when I was happy and had many friends, when things were going good, women were attracted to me. When I was depressed and lonely, hating life and myself, nobody wanted anything to do with me.
Another thing is you need to be realistic about your women. I just dumped a guy who should have dumped me because we were together for 4 years and I wouldn't commit. Nothing wrong with the guy, but I'm gay and I never fully bonded to him. People who stay on the fence like this usually want to bond ...just not with you. But the relationship was good enough, so they stay. I didn't leave this guy for a long time because he wanted me to stay and was real good to me. But I wasn't doing him any favors by staying, I was just tying him up so he couldn't find a woman who would really love him.
So she's saying she needs a few months to "clarify" things? Great! Leave her alone for a while and work full time on yourself. For god's sake don't stay unemployed and use up all your savings - broke is the kiss of death with women, especially for men. If she doesn't want you now, she may want the new and improved you three months from now. Even if she doesn't the changes you effect in yourself may break you out of this deadlock. Good luck.
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Re: So sick of being alone
Tue, October 17, 2006 - 10:07 PM<<<I always feel I have to be acting with most people -- so they don't get to see the real me>>>
hey lynx, question; why dont you just be yourself? -
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Re: So sick of being alone
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 4:30 AM'be yourself' - It is not always so simple I think, because often 'yourself' changes as we go along and once you have established 'yourself' with a set individual, they become accustome to who you are when they found you. Not many are open to any sudden changes in pesonality. To often people get comfortable and just want things to stay the same - fimilar and simple. But most people dont work like that. We learn we live we grow........we change and sometimes its hard to show those changes because we fear unexceptence. And with reason we feel fear because sometimes when we do, rifts in the relationship gets created and to often end in splits.I feel its due to the unwillingness to allow room for the people we love to change and grow, and also the unwillingness to take the chances in life to be open and honest about who we are at any given moment in our ever changing life. It comes down to which desire is stronger. To be a people pleaser and not upset the status quo , or be true to yourself regardeless of others unwillingness to except you. -
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Re: So sick of being alone
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 5:58 PMI think being truly yourself is almost impossible. We are a product of our enviroment. When we are in the midst of stiff necked board room types or a crazed pack of party animals, we are molded by that enviroment. Even when we are alone, we tend to be a different person. By the time we figure out who we relly are, we're too old to do anything about it.
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Re: So sick of being alone
Thu, November 9, 2006 - 2:33 AM>Not many are open to any sudden changes in pesonality.
Or in behavior, even in positive ways. Or even when you attempt to break your own patterns and do something normally outside yourself.
The response would be "pleasantly surprised" at best. Other responses can be frawn, irritation and even anger. If you have a partner who tends to be insecure, that might not work at all.
Also, we live in a society - an environment - where being yourself is easily taken as being seifish, egotistical. Where is the line between a positive interpretation and a critical stare? Why should you care, if that's for your personal growth?
I actually like the phrase "be yourself", because it's a reminder, first of all, not to lose myself and my perspective. But on the other hand, it sounds cheesy, because our society saturated certain images associated with the phrase, without pointing out that there is a fine line between being yourself and being a self-centered bastard.
All of us change over time, unless we are really stuck in one place for all our lives and we are okay with it. That's almost the same as being dead, at least to me. Our changes are hopefully some kind of personal growths for the better. If you feel an urge to break out of your shell, to supress and internalize the urge won't make you happy, I would guess. It will be just another brick in the wall around you. You will have to decide that you have to attempt something for your growth, even if your behavior is interpreted as being selfish and egotistical.
This is where being alone as a single or a married makes a huge difference. If you are single, who cares about being selfish? As far as you know, you are alone and lonely, both physically and emotionally, anyhow. Being married and feeling alone is quite different, and that''s another story. My point here is that being alone itself can be a powerful catalyst and a trigger for your growth and positive changes. Being alone, you don't have to feel any guilt, you don't have to think about excuses to explain your attempt to push the envelop, even few attempts fail, and you are the only one person who is judging you.
So what about being married, feeling alone, and trying to find a way to feel like I am alive and happy? Well, that's where I am at, just wondering. I don't have an answer for that yet.
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Re: So sick of being alone
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 8:45 AMBeing your self takes WORK.
Without some serious soul searching, a mental break down & mild depression diagnosis (happy to find out SOMETHING wasn't right), I feel I would still have these huge walls up that blocked everyone out. Are they still there? Yes but everytime I peel away part of the past, they drop lower. It allows the real me to look over at the world and say "Hey! Its the real me! Look! I'm here!"
I started this journey of "knowing thy self" about two years ago-still have problems; some old issues bothering me but I AM being myself more and more.
One can't be oneself unless you are comfortable loving ALL yourself-good and bad
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Re: So sick of being alone
Thu, November 9, 2006 - 11:58 AMi dont know that being yourself takes work, but rather perhaps it just takes practice...
and, whether people like change or not, how they deal with it, well, whats more important, what they think or how i feel? i have to be true to myself... if im constantly trying to put on the right persona so people will like me or wont reject me or get freaked out as i grow and evolve, now thats work...
i want to attract people into my life who can accept me just the way i am...
if they dont, or cant, honestly, i have to give serious thought as to whether it serves me to have them in my life...
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Re: So sick of being alone
Tue, November 14, 2006 - 11:35 AMMarried and alone - two words that arnt supposed to go together. makes one wonder why we got married in the fist place huh -
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Re: So sick of being alone
Sat, May 5, 2007 - 2:15 AMI think time just drifts people apart sometime.
Could be the best thing that you could ever do in your lifetime to try to bring you and your wife back together.....to relive that kinship and that feeling of melting together.
Very few people are ever completely shut down to making a fresh start and beginning to reconnect with someone that they love.....
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